Opportunities throughout your day

Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
Ender had a good idea, having a single place to cross post other postings makes it a little easier to reference through for self. Consolidation for organization. I like the sound of that.

I’ll also use this as my draft-pad so I can avoid losing drafts as I did when the lair went down.

Siege’s posts Wrote:Opportunities throughout your day
No Kelly, I will not have sex with you
Ways to reduce approach anxiety[/url]
Draw the types of people you like towards you
Girls are inviting you to approach
A girl’s opinion of flirting
Unpredictability makes you hard to forget
Keep everyone in group involved in conversation
Voice is a powerful attraction trigger
How to effectively listen & indicate that
Good listening is very valuable
The value in continuing those conversations with girls you aren’t as interested in
Have a girl on each arm
Have girls competing for you
Example of girl competition in action
It can all start from a kiss on the bus
Sitting next to her rather than across from her is very valuable
How to have her begging for sex
Tease her orally for larger orgasms
How to feel her out for number before asking

FR/LR Wrote:LR – About an hour
LR – Love in an elevator

National PUA events Wrote:2011 PUA World Summit
2011 Lollapalooza/Coaching

NYC Dating Skills Convention

All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
LR – Token LMR & 1st kiss her at my place

(this was written when lair was down, so here it is now)

previously Wrote:
by The Siege

So it all started at Allston bar/grill, Sunset Grill. I was there a little early to be meeting some friends there for dinner. The waitress gave me a table beeper and I sat at the bar to wait for my friends. I was sitting on the corner of the bar and on the adjacent side of the bar were 4 girls in a row. I eye contacted with a smile the two that were closest to me.

As soon as the girl closest to me got her drink, we talked about her beer a bit. We mad some jokes about beers. To explain her reasons to be out on a weeknight, she says that she and her friends ran the marathon that day, so even though I only partially believe her (based on her delivery) I play along with her joke.

I scan across the row of girls and notice the one farthest from me, the youngest and the cutest of the bunch is doing some eye contact flirting heavily but is much more reserved than the other 3 girls.

The first girl then points out each girl in the row and tells me of something that was significant about them in the marathon simultaneously doing a mini-intro without names. She tells me one girl had a knee go out in the last 2 miles, that she personally had stomach ache during part of the race and small factors about each one during the race. It seems as if she is making the whole thing up, but I play along for playful sake.

At one point she is playing with her phone and I see an engagement/wedding band on the indicator finger. She was wicked fun to talk & joke with, so I just noted it in my head & went on with the convo. My first buddy shows up. After a few minutes of catch up talk, I quickly introduce him in to the girls. I use the same intro the first girl did with me when she introduced me to the group.

I started announcing the group to my buddy as an introduction. “Ya, and these girls ran the marathon today. This girl had a stomach-ache, This girl a knee problem…” I began with…. and the first girl finished my introduction to my buddy with the specifics she told me previously. She finished up the introductions.

Conversation went on with me, my buddy & mostly the girl closest to us and a little less with next girl over and even less with the 3rd girl in the group.( Nothing but gazes from the last girl in the row.) At one point the second girl in the row mentioned her husband offhandedly in a comment so I made my second note in my head. The girls were fun to chat with, so it kept going on for a few minutes until their appetizers came.

As the first 3 girls were eating their appetizers, I saw the last girl in the row, the one making her heavy eye contact flirts. She had no appetizer and was just sitting with her drink. She was blond, very cute & definitely caught my attention. She had a rocker chick vibe which has caught & held my attention more than once. I excused myself from my buddy, walked down the bar to where this last girl was sitting and started talking. I first was talking about the marathon again and this girl mentioned that she didn’t even go, she told me the other things she did that day.

The conversation jumps from that to places she’s worked in the past, her love for snowboarding, her origin of a different state. She tells me of her parents, her studies in school. She also tells me what she loves about her studies although her line of work was nothing even closely related. She is getting really excitedly passionate explaining these things, which I find very attractive. I still wasn’t thinking of her as much more than a cool chick to be talking to at the time. As far kino was concerned, the only touching I do is basic offhanded touches that goes easily in any conversation.

We get pretty involved in conversation as I see her getting more interested. She is turning her chair more away from the bar and more towards me and getting excited about the topics she mentioned that I asked her more about as she was elaborating. She was getting excited in her topics and was fun listening to her telling her stories this way. Seeing her interest and energy raising, I point out my friend who diagonally across the bar to point him out to her. I tell her that I think she is wicked cool but I have to get back to my friend (another way to roll out on a high point), we are waiting for another friend before getting a table.

“Oh we should totally trade contact so we can pick this up another time.” I tell her. She agrees and takes out her phone as I was taking out mine. I tell her my information and tell her to call her number through so I have it for later. Then I select her call, select ‘Add to contacts” and hand her my phone telling her to type in the information so I have it saved. She does this and while I am saving it we get into other conversations.

We then talk more about where she was from, what she studied in college and her love for snowboarding and her 3 month trip in the past winter. The conversation was still rolling along nicely so I stayed in it for a few minutes before getting back to my friend. As I start to walk away from her, I turn back and tell her that my friend and I are waiting for another chick friend and then we are getting a table. I tell her as soon as our other friend arrives that she should join us at the table too. She says it sounds good so I tell her I will let her know when I get buzzed for the table.

I go back to my buddy, our other chick friend arrived and I get buzzed for the table. Before sitting down, I go back to HBsnowboard and tell her I just got buzzed for the table. She tells me she is going to the bathroom and will be over after.

So my two friends and I go sit at our new table. We sit and are chatting and laughing along. This new table was on a totally opposite side of the restaurant but a few minutes later I see HBsnowboard coming in the dining room and making her way over. My buddy and chick friend were on the other side of the table so the available seat was on the bench seating next to me where she sat down.

We all ordered and talk and laugh for the next 2 hours or so. We really were just a table of pals chatting it up over dinner, with a new pal involved. Turns out, this girl was not with the other 3 at the bar, she just met them and were insta-friended by them.

All sorts of things come up in our conversation. When I bring up off handed topics of sex, we talk of wacky places to have sex. Then she tells me that she lost her virginity twice. First was with two other girls, then a different time with a guy. We talk of the way Joey Lauren Adams character in ‘Chasing Amy’ explained concepts related to losing virginity and the differences between girl/boy sex and girl/girl sex.

This new girl fit right in with our conversations and everything went along great. I excused myself at one point after dinner to have a smoke and new girl said she was coming with me to smoke as well. While we were outside, I asked her about the hookah bars nearby. Once I learned she liked them, I told her of my hookah at my house.

She told me of her day & of her two roommates. One was a guy and the other was girl who didn’t really like each other. She told me she was a mediator between the two at times. While we were chatting outside, I asked her what she was doing the next day and she told me nothing. I mentioned going back to my place after dinner to smoke hookah and told her she was welcome to come along. She then remembered she was supposed to meet her guy roommate at a nearby bar for a few but said she would skip that since she was having fun with me and could catch up to him later.

We went back inside, had a few more drinks. My buddy had to leave early since he had an NY trip in the following morning so HBsnowboard, my chick friend and myself stayed for another round chatting and laughing. We all paid the bill, I hugged my chick friend goodbye and HBsnowboard and her exchanged “nice meeting you”s with each other.

I first was ready to shoot back to my place with HBsnowboard to smoke some hookah when she tells me that she now has to go to the nearby bar to check on her guy roommate and touch base with him…this was the same one she decided to skip meeting with earlier when it came up. She tells me this and I say nothing, I just look at her. She then then tells me I can come too if I want.

“Alright, why not. That’s a fun bar, I’ll hang for a little bit.”
Sure I could have let her go or said bye or even tried to give her address or directions to my house but I know from prior experience what happens. Her attraction drops, the rapport is temporarily forgotten and a girl will get wrapped up in a new activity. She will be wrapped in the moments and not make it to after plans. I was having fun & came along to the nearby bar she was meeting her roommate at.

HBsnowboard and I go inside. I go up to the bar ahead of her and order a diet coke. She comes up behind me and orders her drink. We chat some more for a while till she sees her guy roommate across the bar and waves to him. A minute or two later, she tells me she is going over to say hi to him. On her second step away, she tells me I should come too. I tell her ok and let her walk over there by herself. I finish my coke and watch TV for a few minutes where I was.

I do that for her to have the first few minutes with her roommate to catch up with whatever without me there yet. After a few minutes, I wander over to them, sit in the stool on the other side of her and then get introduced. I had some small talk with roommate and let them chat about whatever they were chatting about. When it died down a bit, I pick up conversation with HBsnowboard from topics we talked about earlier in the night. Once she was done with her drink, she indicated she wanted to leave the bar so we said bye to her roommate and went to the bustop to go to my place. I stilll haven’t kissed her at all.

Once we got there, I showed her different things around my place. We talked of where some of the decorating ideas came from and talked about different framed pieces on the walls. At one point while talking about a wall of framed photos, she points to a single one with a sexual theme and says to me: “I like that one”

Hearing her say this, I am watching her face as she does. When she finishes speaking I pull her close and start kissing her for first time, full make out. With many girls I kiss them the first time when we’re already back to my place. Before that it was nothing but offhanded touches in convo and hints dropped by me to them. Enough sexual tension can be built with conversation alone that timing gets to be crucial here. We made out for a few minutes in this hallway. I stopped this after a few and kept talking about the art on the walls and directed her to come with me to see another piece. This piece was in my bedroom. We talked about it for a minute then I pulled her to me again and started kissing her.

With two steps away, I moved us over and fell with her on my bed to keep making out. This went on for about 10 minutes. I was rubbing the sides of her body and rubbing the skin of her back and stomach under her shirt. Once I reached around to unhook her bra, she stopped me, sat up and told me that we just met.

I playfully pushed her back and said “I know it, cut it out.” in a playful smirk. I then stood up, took her hand and said “Come with me.” As I took her back in the living room, I put some music on. I asked if she wanted a glass of water and got her and myself one. We talked for a while and listened to music. She edged her seat on the couch to be tiny bit closer to me so I put my arm around her and started making out again. We made out for a while, and I stopped it to change the radio. I just went easily back into a completely unrelated topic every so often. Then I would bring it back to escalating again.

At one point she half jokingly told me she thought I was a gentleman, that she didn’t expect all this. I told her I never claimed to be gentle with a smirk on my face. I then told her I was attracted to her and asked her: “What’s wrong with that?” She shyly told me nothing. I told her that I didn’t think so either.

A little later I told her I wanted to give each other backrubs. I unfolded the futon and told her I wanted the backrub first. She told me she didn’t think she could do it well and I told her I was open to see what she could do.

I took off my shirt, lied down and she straddled me sitting on my ass. After a few minutes, I told her she wasn’t that good (jokingly but not joking at the same time). I then told her to get off of me so she could lie down and I show her how a backrub is supposed to feel.

She does that, and I start to rub the back of her shirt. After a minute, I tell her to take off the shirt and she does that. As soon as the shirt is off I unhook her bra. Then I rub her back for a while before moving to her sides and teasing the sides of her boobs. I also lean in really close to her, pausing rubbing her back to breath in around her neck and smell her hair so she can feel the air rushing as I can inhale her scents.

She is wearing nylons under her skirt. I go to pull her skirt down and she asks me “What are you doing?”

Rather than explain the obvious, I just tell her. “Take this off” as I press the waist of her skirt to show her what I mean. She does that. Previously doing things like that, I thought I had to continue the thread of giving a harmless backrub. Now understanding how girls think in a moment-to-moment basis, I know once she has gon along with having the skirt off, she is in a new moment with a new objective. Once she has it off, I turn her over to her back and we continue making out of a while. I am in no rush. I enjoy making out with her and I have learned that sometimes the longer amount of time between steps faces less resistance… while sometimes trying to get too many steps in succession increases the likelihood of resistance. This lets me get her really hot with lots of slow sensual touches…I enjoy this. A few more minutes go by & I then feel her hands fiddling with my belt buckle. I show her how it works and then take it off myself.

After 10 minutes or more, I go to pull her nylons down. As I just start to put my fingers under the waist band. She feels this and takes the nylons and her panties off herself…
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
09-11-2011, 08:15 AM
Post: #3
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
LR – In about an hour from ‘hello’

Siege Wrote:
Treats, prizes, games & puzzles

(I may have been more explicit in this LR than most, but that is because getting a girl wicked horny and keeping her that way on the way to sex is a big part of avoiding LMR. Each girl is different but I always love to maximize the experience anyways. Giving her good sex leads to her wanting more later. )

This was an interesting night I was first out with guys in Central Sq and decided to head back to Brighton around 10:30 or so. As I got off the bus on my way home, I walked down to the Brighton Beer Garden to see if any of my neighborhood friends were out.

Just as I was getting to the door, I saw a girl walking on the sidewalk towards where I was, towards to Beer Garden. She was cute, had a great figure so I leaned out to make it pretty obvious I was checking her out before I walked into the bar. A few minutes after I sit & order, I notice a girl sit down next to me, a few stools away. I look over & it was the same girl who was walking up the sidewalk that I was blatant about checking out.

After a minute or two, I start talking to her about random small talk. Then we were talking about how she spent her day, her travels, where she was originally from and what brought her to Brighton. Once we were talking of silly stuff and laughing I told her I was tired of hollering (I wasn’t really but I wanted her closer) to her and showed her the seat next to me. Then I told her to sit next to me, which she did and I could offhandedly touch her when I was making points in the conversation.

While trading stories, I went on to tell her how excited I was that the next day day I was scheduled to go kiteboarding with my buddy at Nahant beach. I described the feelings of heart pounding adrenaline that happens when you get a good gust of wind and are pulled up into the air. Explaining that the first time I flew with a kiteboard kite was the previous summer, I described the rush, made a motion with my had to explain the heart beating in your chest and how you can feel everything from the tips of your fingers to the tips of your toes. To summarize the experience as an example, I told her how I savor those fleeting moments when you feel truly alive.

She listened intently and told me that it sounded awesome. Upon hearing her interest, I told her what time we were leaving the next day and that she should totally come along. She said that it sounded good so I explained where I meet my buddy, a train station near the beach, and then went on to describe what I like best about this particular beach.

For whatever reason, the bartenders let us know that they would be closing early. This was about 11:30. Seeing that me & HB were clicking so well I asked her if she smoked hookah. She says “Shisha?!? I love it!” so then I tell her that I recently got some vanilla that was phenomenal and asked her if she wanted to come smoke with me so we could continue to talk about world domination together. She said she would very much like to, so we left & headed to my place which was a few blocks away.

As we got to my place I brought her in the living room/bedroom (both a flat futon & a couch futon are in that room), sat her down & asked if she wanted a glass of water. She did, so I got her that & then went to get my hookah. As we chatted I was getting it set up. I was showing her the new vanilla, letting her smell it before I filled the hookah. Talking about the scents moved our conversation to sensual things. Then I went to get a coal, lit it on the stove, and put the lid on since it takes a few minutes to heat up fully. Then from talking about sensual things, I moved to talk about sexual things and a debate I heard about from a chick friend. My friend was telling me about a debate between a single, very powerful orgasm to the pleasure had in a series of multiple orgasms.

While HB was telling me her perspective on the debate, as soon as she was saying the words “Multiple orgasms” I put my hand behind her head and pulled her close to me for a kiss. I wanted to seize that moment of thought in her head. We made out for a few on the couch and as she was getting hott, I pulled her shirt off which she didn’t resist. I playfully asked myself if she had an intention when she cam out tonight since she was wearing no bra underneath. I kissed all over her body from waist up, then around her neck and back to making out. Then I would kiss my way back around to places on her neck, around her ears, back to her boobs and down her stomach.

When I got to her waist, the waist band of her shorts, I merely dragged a finger under the top edge of the waistband (to give her a hint) and then I went to kiss down the fronts of her legs. Kissing a path on my way up the fronts of her legs, I started to move the kisses to her inner legs, her inner thighs. .

As I got to the bottom of her shorts, I kissed my way up closer while pushing the shorts up with the tip of my nose., getting closer to her pussy. As I was really close, still not directly touching, I saw that she was wearing no panties either. I still didn’t touch her pussy yet. I kissed all around, very close. I was kissing up the way of the crease of her inner hip, then back down, breathing heavy near her pussy so she could feel that too. I wanted her to fill with anticipation yet no release yet. I kept going a tiny bit closer, then kissing a little bit away again.

Although she was eager waiting for my to lick her, I came up to kiss her belly again. This time I dragged my tongue across the waistband of her shorts, with just the tip of my tongue I dragged it under the edge of the waistband then kissed my way up her body, to her neck, then back to making out.

In this position, I went on to dry hump her slowly. First I would hump her without even the front of my pants touching the front of her shorts, I would just make a slow rhythmic motion so she could feel my hips between her hips and imaging me inside her while doing this.

sidenote Wrote:
Platonic chick friends from high school would tell me about the pleasure they get from dry humping. It was a good prelude to sex and I have been with several girls who can actually have a starting orgasm from this when it is done right. Either way, it is getting them hott & horny, still in anticipation of what is to come.

Then I would press the front of my pants to the front of her pants for a single grind, then back off a bit and keep the motion up with my hips alone. My contact of the front of my pants to the front of hers would increase steadily until I kissed my way back down her body, sucking her boobs for a while then kissing her belly, then to her waistband of her shorts. She is breathing heavily and moaning at my every move now, she is all worked up and extremely horny. At this time, I go to pull her shorts off & she is very eager to have them off.

Here is what I do when I have the shorts off: http://www.bostonlair.com/forum/showthre…8#pid49888
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
09-14-2011, 11:23 PM
Post: #4
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
Cj Siege
Totally feel that… not a player, pua, guru… I am just SO in love with women, the ones that catch my attention. A bunch of years ago I learned how to give love & receive it’s reciprocation when it was coming on a regular basis. I just love to teach what I discovered as the most fulfilling fruit on the vine Smile
Like · · near Boston
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
09-16-2011, 02:28 PM
Post: #5
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
There is a whole differnt fustration that arises from being very good at raising attraction/rapport with girls.

Getting into conversations with girls and an amazing chemistry is established and enjoyed by both. The you go on insta-date, trade contact for future, set up tenative upcommming date together.

Then you contact her & find out she reall does have a a boyfriend. (recent ex. she wrote: “…and we’ve been together for 7 years, have twins..”etc.)

Sure part of me might like to be her fling, but the other part doesn’t want to waste time.

The mojor voice in my head wants to be hollaring “Why the fuck didn’t you say so or not trade numbers, or do a rejection of anykind?!?”

Yes I enjoyed our time together, those moments. I wouldn’t have wanted her to now allow herself to have spent that intial time we did together. We both enjoyed it & it hurt no-one.

Although I do know, the emotional high in a woman’s mind will temporarily shut off (or block) the logic from kicking in so I accept that.

And I do remember seeing a flicker of uncertainty flash across her face when my closing comments about the next time we are going to meet up again…and that it is very different than the magic we shared in playfully discussing our future date…but still.

Ah never mind. It is actually fine, I just had to walk this one out in words, I feel better already. The brief time we spent together in the insta-date was very nice. It was awesome to be riding that wave of chemistry for how long it lasted (yes I always fall in mini-love all the time)

I wouldn’t want to disrupt her life, her relationship…and I really wouldn’t have wanted her to disrupt the wave we were on while we were on it because logically, later it wouldn’t work on the timeline. All is good & like those moments to continuously be available through my life. I enjoy things as they are. Smile
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
09-18-2011, 11:05 AM
Post: #6
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles

DSmoothMike Wrote:I had a cigg in my hand and I noticed this girl taking out a smoke. I wanted to try something out…

I walked up to her very casually. I dropped into a lean on the wall, and said to her very slowly and seductively, “I know it sounds a bit…random….hmm….do you want to butt fuck?”

(In smoking terms it means that you get someones lit cigarette and light yours with theirs.)

She laughs and said, “Hell yeah, I want to butt fuck!” takes my cigarette and lights hers. Then she gives my smoke to her friend so she can light hers. “Now look,” she says, “now you’re butt fucking two women.” I slid my hand down her lower back and ass cheeks “Oh really?” I responded. I took a puff and said, “Was it good for you?” and they began laughing. The girl then said, “This guy just walked up to me and gave me these fliers and I have nowhere to put them!” I took a puff, flicked the smoke away and said, “I know EXACTLY where to put them…” I stepped in front of her, stared deep into her eyes, took one flyer, gently placed it inside her bra while caressing the breast. Took the other flyer and did it with the other boob. She was totally going for it when her friend decided to take her back into the other club.

That is phucking awesome,
You have synthesized what I teach in incredible ways! From before I showed you that girls love talking sex, especially under the radar which is a huge part that I learned from seeing girls in my life since childhood communicating with each other in subtextual ways. Interweaving sexual topics where two meanings can easily fit brings out available magical moments to capture.

The next step in my (“Getting Her Chasing You”) method, is putting it on her. I learned most all of my stuff from growing up with girls & having lots of girls in my life. That is what taught me how to flip the coin in the chase.

The techniques that get them chasing at first ‘hello’ all the way to having them beg for sex and every step along the process. Since girls have been chased their whole life it is like a breath of fresh air for them. They are getting rewarded for what they do, not just the fact that they are a girl and are hott. Their reward in my methods is for the actions they take in chasing the man.

It is the same stuff they do to guys and when talking to other girls, in different ways back to them.

For one example, using a bit of plausable deniability back on the girl. Plausable deniability as referenced to how girls accept going back to a SNL location for other reasons.

They want to have sex with you on the inside, but logically, in dialog they are going to watch that youtube video you were talking about. You can use plausablie deniabilty in your favor as she sees it, then she feels like the pursuer and does what she knows how to to fulfill that role.

The Siege at cafe Wrote:Ex. As in when HB waitress listening to me teasing her aboout lack of a joyful greeting she says “I know, I suck.”

My next comments are “Whoa missy, slow down! We just met and already you’re suggesting mischief. Let’s get to know each other a little better first!” in a playful smirk…

…which instantly puts her in blushy playful places, easily guided to their most escalatable place.

A girls imagination is a wonderful place to play in. She wont feel the need to hesitate or resist since it is all a joke, just playfull banter.

Or is it?

In a girl’s imagination those place can bring them arousal just as fast (actually faster and deeper) than physical stimulation on its own.

Another reason while talk during sexy time dramatically increases the amounts of pleasure she feels, from before foreplay to foreplay to orgasm.

The next thing to do is to tell her to slow down, accusing her of the one bringing things up.

You maintain that she is doing things to you, and you are resisting her. Then you can slowly be ‘dropping your (playfully pretended) resistance’ as she will increase her persistance in response to that.

If you didn’t have a GF Wink, I would explain more about what can be done to capitalize on the friend, keeping her from pulling your target girl away but that’s another branch of this topic. I’ll write about that in my own Personal Progress Thread (PPT) if you remind me too.

What you did in the first example I quoted was great, escalating things already in a way better than above average guys. Yet let me take the example and put myself in that place to think of what could be tried to see how far it can go. I’ll imagine I am where you were at:

C.J. “The Siege Wrote:With a cigg in my hand, I noticed a girl taking a smoke out of the pack.

As I walk up to her very casually, I dropped into a lean on the wall, and said to her very slowly and seductively, “I know it sounds a bit…random….hmm….do you want to butt fuck?” with a playful smirk

(In smoking terms it means that you get someones lit cigarette and light yours with theirs.)

She laughs and says, “Hell yeah, I want to butt fuck!”

She then takes my cigarette and lights hers. Then she gives my smoke to her friend so she can light hers.

“Now look,” she says, “now you’re butt fucking two women.”

With locked eyes & a playful smirk, I slide my hand down her lower back and ass cheeks missy saying: “Whoa missy, slow down…” in a lower, deeper voice “You might be getting me turned on enough to try things I never dreamed of…” (smirk indreases) “…before I met you.”

Now you can see in that last part, my actions are doing one thing while my words are saying something completely different. This is a key thing to remember & use, that I will elaborate with a variety of examples in my PPT. I will also break down the sentence itself, so another with the key componants that make it work can be adapted to any situation.

Now there are a few different examples of what comments could come next, depending on how she responds to that & even before she responds since most likely she’ll be taken aback for a good moment or two, soaking in what is happening.

Which having that moment of her soaking it in, gives you the time to slide in the next possible leading directions but I won’t fill up your thread with possible outcomes, I’ll write those in my PPT.

Great work DSM, keep it up & the magic has nothing to do but grow!!
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
09-19-2011, 01:11 AM (This post was last modified: 09-19-2011 11:58 AM by Siege.)
Post: #7
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles

Women’s view on pickup Wrote:Which are more examples along with the many I have seen & heard about, read about, talk to… of how girls don’t think ‘Lair’ & ‘Pickup’ are creepy. I have had many gfs and chick friends know about what I do, this sort of group. They like the fact that men are taking steps to grow some balls and make ligitimate moves to have a girl they are interested in rather than being so passive about who they end up with.

This is not to say that BostonLair should have female members, whereas this:

General perspective on pickup Wrote:Thomas Edwards – Professional Wingman was featured on Network TV (I was contacted by same reporter but not featured due to length of clip) and that painted the whole thing in an excellent light. on a show called Chronicle at 7:30pm one night, and the topic was Dating in Boston. in the 3rd segment of it:
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/chronicl…etail.html This whole ‘pickup’ movement for men taking steps not to be passive when it comes to attraction and courtship is being applauded by the general community. The VH1 show was received well. When it was at its high point, I have heard girls playfull ask if it was going on while guys opening them. In general, the regular is that guys don’t approach girls except in bars when their drunk.

All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
09-23-2011, 04:02 PM
Post: #8
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
LAX:
1.Candy clerk
2.Portland – class reunion
3.Vegas – has a man
4. Carolina cougar
5. Elevator girl – wicked rush
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
10-10-2011, 09:44 PM (This post was last modified: 10-10-2011 09:46 PM by Siege.)
Post: #9
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
Re: Answers

[[[What sticking points would you like to overcome?
I would like to overcome approach anxiety.]]]

The best way to make it go away is to keep opening. Here is an assignment: Open 3 new conversations per day. To keep yourself accountable, open a new SMS message to yourself each day. Write 1. 2. 3. in there. Then you have a place to write a few notes about each convo & make sure you fill up all 3. If you use email to yourself, & send me copy of email, Those notes will help you remember convos for me to help you in follow up. Not a PUA so to speak (rated R)

It is just that I do truly love women.

The sucker that falls in love way too easily, that is me, In love on a regular basis.

Still in love with most every girl I have ever dated, each in their own way. (still in love with girls never dated/fucked but we shared moments of enjoying each other’s energy, shared space/time, even for brief moments.)

Those moments I’ve shared with girls, be it for 45 minutes in convo over coffee or regularly touching bases for over 10 years, I’ve loved every minute!

Never fucked a girl, that I wanted to share nothing else with. It was the shared moments prior that led me to want to fuck her in the first place & the moments after that led me to want to fuck her again.

Honestly wouldn’t trade those for anything in the world and am very thankful to have learned what I have up to this point.

That being said, with 3.4 billion women on Earth, it is impossible to know everything about m/f dynamics, so I am very eager for all life has to teach me from this point on! Very, very thankful!

There has still been nothing yet that has given me deeper happiness, greater joy than those quick fleeting moments when u feel truly alive!

Thank You

(sry if post’s a little mushy or head over heels.) Just came to my other fb acct
By Cj Siege · Saturday, July 30, 2011

“i just have to put this out there. no clue what it is about you, but ive never been sooooo attracted to someone ive never even met, as i am to you…lol seriously, but its more your personality and attitude. its attractive as hell ~Jessica”

ME: xo to you too jessica
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
10-19-2011, 09:19 PM
Post: #10
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
Once again. Met her at spot & within 2 hours, headed back to my place to smoke hookah. Hookah never lit before we were naked, oops Wink

HBScorpio just happend to be sitting a bar when Iwalked in.

I sat next to her & aksed “So how’s it going tonihgt…so far…” witha smirking knowhow.
i say that since I Knew whe things would be going as long as there was no interference, I didn’t predict.

Wonderfully, it di, but I am just stating this post to remind me to elaborate the detaisl when I have more time

\

[Disclaimer: This PPT is my personal Diary of whatever is on my mind. There is never any reason to be here unless you choose to, which I welcome any curious minds but this thread will cover whatever is in my thoughts whenever I choose to write here. I may or may not re-post to another suiting thread, but here it is my blotter per se, my scratch pad or brainstorming table. That being said. please don't expect any specific structure of form, or relevance/non relevbance to any topic within my life. These are MY thoughts, or wht led me to thoughts or what I like thinking about. Still having the "Nothing to prove/Nothing to hide mindset, yes yoou are welcome to read & to comment. Please note: IF YOU DO comment, I may or may not ask you to remove your comment. Please abide by whatever I ask of this nature. Knowing that I might ask, you are free to write what you wish]
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
10-24-2011, 06:39 PM
Post: #11
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
Cool RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
“OMG there is running water here, this is fantastic!” (~One of the reoccurring benefits to adventure filled life, allows you to repeatedly appreciate the simple things on a whole new scope)
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
[+] 1 user Likes Siege’s post
10-27-2011, 09:19 AM
Post: #12
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
RE: Newbie Lovin’
Hello I’m: C.J. (♥♥♥) “The Siege” and I’m a newbie.

Although I have been in this group since 2006 or so and have been involved in & teaching these topics since the mid-90′s, I am still learning new parts of all things pretty much on a daily basis.

While I have had women come from other states to see me when I GHCY stuff on her when I so want to see her again, girls talk nothing but of me when I leave the place, been proposed to several times and all tha mumbo jumbo…there was a single thing that stood out above the rest.

One of the biggest, most pronounced thing I have learned in all that time, came from the abundance of what I have learned.

Here it is:

•It is that I know very little. Let me repeat that. Compared to how much there is to know, I haven’t even scratched the surface.
•There are 3.4 billion women on Earth, each with a different personality that cam from a different set of life experiences.
•There is that same equation for the same amount of men
•when you have to match each one up with each one of the other gender. That’s alot of phucking results to see.
•Yes there are patterns and similarities that can be worked with to increase chances & probabilities but none of this is exact or absolute, it cant be
•People are changing on an ongoing basis.

Which is why you may have heard me say once or a dozen times: “There is no absolute method, only formulas for best results.”

Those things I spoke of, learned from all over, still learning:

[/b]
•It may be from the the Mouliers Biography I should be reading soon.
•Or maybe it was tossing out a techniques that has worked with every girl previously that just backfired with a new girl I never met before.
•Or maybe it was hearing the situation and perspective from a guy labeled a ‘newbie’ within a lair forum.
•Or seeing an aspect of limited perspective from a guy labeled ‘guru’ or ‘experienced guy’ or ‘senior member’.
•Or maybe it was, my favorite, when I all of a sudden realize that something I believed to be a single way & true, suddenly becomes clearer (even directly opposing what I previosly believed) like I never realized is possibilities before.

Many guys have related much of this, like choosing the red pill in the Matrix.

I see it more like fininding a new red pill every so often all along the way and on a consistant basis.

Incredibly happy to be a part of this Boston Men’s Symposium, and very thankful for the friends I have made in the last 5 years and the ones I continue to make.

Thinking back on it, I later realized I would have never made those frineds from any other place, we would have never crossed paths anywhere else in life.

One common denominator found within those friends and I continue to see, that is along with our common love of the female energies/spirit to be in abunadnce throoughout our lives…..is that the guys I meet here all ahve a common factor about them.’

These are not the guys who go through their days letting life live them.

These are high acheivers, guys who want the best in all aspects of life & are continuously reaching fot that next plateau.

Whether you know Anthony Robbins’ circle of success or not, these are the guys I am ever so thankful for surrounding my everything in what I do.

These are the guys who know friendship to it’s fullest, enjoy women to their fullest and strive through life to have the best in everything they do.

Although I would love to do a holla passage to this post to shout out to all the top-shelf guys I have met through here, I have been typing since
5:30 this morning & I now have an appointment at 11.

~”So yes., this is C.J. “The Siege” signing off for now, Over & out!”

…and Thank You!
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
10-29-2011, 06:44 AM (This post was last modified: 10-29-2011 07:02 AM by Siege.)
Post: #13
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
Dropping seeds in convo that lead to 3some

CLICK LINK HERE

Code:

[url=]Dropping seeds in convo that lead too 3some[/url]
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-03-2011, 04:59 AM
Post: #14
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
Dangles Wrote: I agree also and I mentioned it to Siege and he agreed with me. I was planning on bringing it up later in the month. I 100% believe that the event would be way more successful on a Saturday. Part of why I changed the night event to Friday was so that guys could make dates for Saturday.

So much, VERY much agreed.

At the dayGSFs I have been explaining gf the value of insta-dates and keeping them going as long as possible to make the largest impact on her.

For an insta-date to be able to transfer to a night venue by a guy and the girl he met, that would skyrocket the ratio of SNLs and even dates later from GSFs tremendously. !!
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-06-2011, 06:46 PM (This post was last modified: 11-06-2011 06:48 PM by Siege.)
Post: #15
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_%28Internet%29 Here is where I will keep my references until I have a chance to write my passage about this…or actually finish the passage started over 6 months ago and been added to whenever points came up that were relevant.

(11-06-2011 06:46 PM)Siege Wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_%28Internet%29

Flaming (Internet)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Flaming, also known as bashing, is hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users. Flaming usually occurs in the social context of an Internet forum, Internet Relay Chat (IRC), Usenet, by e-mail, game servers such as Xbox Live or Playstation Network, and on video-sharing websites. It is frequently the result of the discussion of heated real-world issues such as politics, religion, and philosophy, or of issues that polarise subpopulations, but can also be provoked by seemingly trivial differences.

Deliberate flaming, as opposed to flaming as a result of emotional discussions, is carried out by individuals known as flamers, who are specifically motivated to incite flaming. These users specialize in flaming and target specific aspects of a controversial conversation, and are usually more subtle than their counterparts. Their counterparts are known as trolls who are less “professional” and write obvious and blunt remarks to incite a flame war, as opposed to the more subtle, yet precise flamers.[1] Some websites even cater for flamers and trolls, by allowing them a free environment, such as Flame-Wars forum.[2]
Contents

1 Theory
2 History
3 Typical flaming
3.1 Flamebait
3.2 “Flame wars”
3.3 Orthography and grammar
4 Examples of flaming
5 Legal implications
6 See also
7 References
8 Further reading
9 External links

[edit] Theory

Many social researchers have investigated flaming, coming up with several different theories about the phenomenon.[3] These include deindividuation and reduced awareness of other people’s feelings (online disinhibition effect)[4][5][6], conformance to perceived norms[7][8] and miscommunication caused by the lack of social cues available in face-to-face communication[9][10][11].

Jacob Borders, in discussing participants’ internal modeling of a discussion, says:

Mental models are fuzzy, incomplete, and imprecisely stated. Furthermore, within a single individual, mental models change with time, even during the flow of a single conversation. The human mind assembles a few relationships to fit the context of a discussion. As debate shifts, so do the mental models. Even when only a single topic is being discussed, each participant in a conversation employs a different mental model to interpret the subject. Fundamental assumptions differ but are never brought into the open. Goals are different but left unstated. It is little wonder that compromise takes so long. And even when consensus is reached, the underlying assumptions may be fallacies that lead to laws and programs that fail. The human mind is not adapted to understanding correctly the consequences implied by a mental model. A mental model may be correct in structure and assumptions but, even so, the human mind–either individually or as a group consensus–is apt to draw the wrong implications for the future.[12]

Thus, online conversations often involve a variety of assumptions and motives unique to each individual user. Without social context, users are often helpless to know the intentions of their counterparts. In addition to the problems of conflicting mental models often present in online discussions, the inherent lack of face-to-face communication online can encourage hostility. Professor Norman Johnson, commenting on the propensity of Internet posters to flame one another, states:

The literature suggests that, compared to face-to-face, the increased incidence of flaming when using computer-mediated communication is due to reductions in the transfer of social cues, which decrease individuals’ concern for social evaluation and fear of social sanctions or reprisals. When social identity and ingroup status are salient, computer mediation can decrease flaming because individuals focus their attention on the social context (and associated norms) rather than themselves.[13]

Generally, then, a lack of social context creates an element of anonymity, which allows users to feel insulated from the forms of punishment they might receive in a more conventional setting. Johnson identifies several precursors to flaming between users, whom he refers to as “negotiation partners,” since Internet communication typically involves back-and-forth interactions similar to a negotiation. Flaming incidents usually arise in response to a perception of one or more negotiation partners being unfair. Perceived unfairness can include a lack of consideration for an individual’s vested interests, unfavorable treatment (especially when the flamer has been considerate of other users), and misunderstandings aggravated by the inability to convey subtle indicators like non-verbal cues and facial expressions.[13]
[edit] History

Evidence of debates which resulted in insults being hurled back-and-forth between two parties can be found throughout history. Arguments over the ratification of the United States Constitution were often personally heated, with many striking at one another through local newspapers. Also, such interactions have always been part of literary criticism. For example, Ralph Waldo Emerson’s contempt for Jane Austen’s works often extended to the author herself, with Emerson describing her as “without genius, wit, or knowledge of the world.” In turn, Emerson himself was called a “hoary-headed toothless baboon” by Thomas Carlyle.[14]

In the modern era, flaming was used at East Coast engineering schools as a present participle in a crude expression to describe an irascible individual and by extension to such individuals on the earliest Internet chat rooms and message boards. Internet flaming was mostly observed in the Usenet hierarchies although it was known to occur in the WWIVnet and FidoNet computer networks as well.[citation needed] It was subsequently used in other parts of speech with much the same meaning.

The term “flaming” may originate from The Hacker’s Dictionary[15], which in 1983 defined it as “to speak rabidly or incessantly on an uninteresting topic or with a patently ridiculous attitude”. The meaning of the word has diverged from this definition since then.
[edit] Typical flaming
This section may contain original research. Please improve it by verifying the claims made and adding references. Statements consisting only of original research may be removed. More details may be available on the talk page. (April 2011)
[edit] Flamebait

Flamebait is a message posted to a public Internet discussion group, such as a forum, newsgroup or mailing list, with the intent of provoking an angry response (a “flame”) or argument over a topic the poster often has no real interest in.[16] While flaming can occur as a result of legitimate debates or grievances, flamebait implies the intentional posting of inflammatory rhetoric or images.

As stated, flaming can stem from a variety of issues, including misunderstandings, frustration, and perceptions of unfairness. One motive (from trolls especially) is the desire for attention and for entertainment derived at the expense of others. Posted flamebait can provide the poster with a controlled trigger-and-response setting in which to anonymously engage in conflicts and indulge in aggressive behavior without facing the consequences that such behavior might bring in a face-to-face encounter. In other instances, flamebait may be used to reduce a forum’s use by angering the forum users.
[edit] “Flame wars”

A flame war results when one or more users engages in provocative responses to the originally posted flamebait. Flame wars often draw in many users (including those trying to diffuse the flame war) and can overshadow regular forum discussion if left unchecked.

Resolving a flame war can be difficult, as it is often hard to determine who is really responsible for the degradation of a reasonable discussion into flame war. Someone who posts a contrary opinion in a strongly focused discussion forum may be easily labeled a “baiter”, “flamer”, or “troll”. Therefore, it seems important to make the rules and focus of a discussion forum public to avoid misconceptions about its accepted use.

An approach to resolving a flame war or responding to flaming is to communicate openly with the offending users. Acknowledging mistakes, offering to help resolve the disagreement, making clear, reasoned arguments, and even self-deprecation have all been noted as worthwhile strategies to end such disputes. However, others prefer to simply ignore flaming, noting that, in many cases, if the flamebait receives no attention, it will quickly be forgotten as forum discussions carry on.[14] Unfortunately, this can motivate trolls to intensify their activities, creating additional distractions.

Taking the bait or feeding the troll refers to someone who responds to the original message regardless of whether they are aware the original message was intended to provoke a response. Often when someone takes the bait, others will point out to them YHBT for “You have been trolled”, or reply with “don’t feed the trolls.” Forum users will also frequently “rate” the troll as means of acknowledgment, with statements such as “0/10, obvious troll is obvious”, or “10/10, I raged.”
[edit] Orthography and grammar

Incorrect spelling and grammatical mistakes are also very frequently the subject of flames, particularly if a flame war has already started. In such a situation, the flamers may try to impugn their opponents’ intelligence by highlighting any errors in their adversaries’ grammar or spelling. This has given rise to the term spelling flame[17] for a flame that excoriates an earlier poster over their spelling errors. Posters who censure the grammar of others are often called Grammar Nazis — this may cause great offence due to the association with Nazism, but this label is also used ironically and is occasionally proudly self-applied.
[edit] Examples of flaming

Any subject of a polarizing nature can feasibly cause flaming. As one would expect in the medium of the Internet, technology is a common topic. The perennial debates between users of competing operating systems such as Windows, Mac OS, or the GNU/Linux operating system, users of Intel and AMD processors, and users of the Nintendo Wii, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 video game systems, often escalate into seemingly unending “flamewars”, called also software wars. As each successive technology is released, it develops its own outspoken fan base, allowing arguments to begin anew.

Popular culture continues to generate large amounts of flaming and countless flamewars across the Internet, such as the constant debates between fans of Star Trek and Star Wars. Ongoing discussion of current celebrities and television personalities within popular culture also frequently sparks debate.

In 2005, author Anne Rice became involved in a flamewar of sorts on the review boards of online retailer Amazon.com after several reviewers posted scathing comments about her latest novel. Rice responded to the comments with her own lengthy response, which was quickly met with more feedback from users.[14]

The free FlightGear Flight Simulator has provoked a large number of flame wars in the past, as well. In 2010, a deletion sparked a real-life threat flame war on the Simulator’s discussion forums.[citation needed]
[edit] Legal implications

Internet laws generally regard any message or post that threatens, harasses, or degrades another user as cyber harassment. While “flame wars” are not illegal, threats and insults said within them may break cyber laws. Laws vary from country to country, but in most cases, flaming can be considered cyber harassment, which can result in Internet Service Provider action to prevent access to the site being flamed.
[edit] See also

Eristic
Fisking
Forumwarz
Godwin’s Law
Internet Troll
Smack talk
Social software
Spiral of silence on the Internet
Wikipedia on incivility
Wikipedia on incivility (more)

[edit] References

Notes
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Post: #16
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-06-2011, 11:19 PM (This post was last modified: 11-06-2011 11:44 PM by Siege.)
Post: #17
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-07-2011, 10:14 PM
Post: #18
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
I wonder why my posts wouldn’t post. Tehy still came up when a ‘back’arrow was pressed
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-07-2011, 10:19 PM
Post: #19
DSmoothMike Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 279
Likes Given: 105
Likes Received: 38 in 28 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)

(11-07-2011 10:14 PM)Siege Wrote: I wonder why my posts wouldn’t post. Tehy still came up when a ‘back’arrow was pressed

Ah, THAT’s what’s happening. I thought that you just wanted to be first all the time. =P
D as in “Damn” Smooth as in “Butter” Mike as in “The Filippino lover!”
Check out my blog
Seduction is production
Check this shiznit out
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Unlike Post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
[+] 1 user Likes DSmoothMike’s post
11-08-2011, 04:21 AM (This post was last modified: 11-08-2011 04:25 AM by Siege.)
Post: #20
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)

(11-07-2011 10:19 PM)DSmoothMike Wrote:

(11-07-2011 10:14 PM)Siege Wrote: I wonder why my posts wouldn’t post. Tehy still came up when a ‘back’arrow was pressed

Ah, THAT’s what’s happening. I thought that you just wanted to be first all the time. =P

Thank you

[Image: photo.php?fbid=313736981976494&s...amp;type=3]

[Image: 303947_306448396038686_100000205847683_1...8225_n.jpg] [Image: photo.php?fbid=207325422674175&s...amp;type=3]
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
[+] 1 user Likes Siege’s post
11-08-2011, 12:44 PM
Post: #21
DSmoothMike Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 279
Likes Given: 105
Likes Received: 38 in 28 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
How did you put pictures up here?
D as in “Damn” Smooth as in “Butter” Mike as in “The Filippino lover!”
Check out my blog
Seduction is production
Check this shiznit out
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Like Post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-10-2011, 05:45 AM
Post: #22
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
[Image: 223741_261942003822659_100000205847683_1...1216_n.jpg]

[Image: 282166_264959470187579_100000205847683_1...2879_n.jpg]

[Image: 294826_269787826371410_100000205847683_1...2570_n.jpg]

[Image: 294565_275311882485671_100000205847683_1...4703_n.jpg]

[Image: 313585_291555314194661_100000205847683_1...6324_n.jpg]
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-13-2011, 04:11 AM
Post: #23
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
What the eye/radar spots for detail:
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
11-13-2011, 07:01 AM (This post was last modified: 11-13-2011 07:04 AM by Siege.)
Post: #24
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)
[Image: 316594_10150376651228718_662323717_82081...5183_a.jpg][Image: 300567_10150375199048718_662323717_81964...1181_n.jpg][Image: 311377_10150376657938718_662323717_82082...3941_a.jpg][Image: 301549_10150375057468718_662323717_81949...8067_a.jpg][/quote] [Image: n662323717_1333257_3516.jpg]
[Image: n662323717_987213_6170.jpg]
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs
Send this user an email Send this user a private message Visit this user’s website Find all posts by this user Reputation:
Edit this post Delete this post Quote this message in a reply Quote this post Report this post to a moderator
Today, 06:59 AM
Post: #25
Siege Offline
Day GSF Organizer
****

Posts: 430
Likes Given: 45
Likes Received: 21 in 19 posts
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 7
Warning Level: 0%
RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles (also draft storage, before/after posted elswhr)

(Today 06:50 AM)Siege Wrote: [insert]

Serendipitous Wrote:Siege, bringing up a bunch of Achilles threads is not productive to making the forum a more hospitable environment. Therefore I’ll continue to lock the threads you bring up, especially when you’ve made four posts in a row now and people here want to move on now.

” and people here want to move on now.”

You are only one person. Please speak as such to be accurate.
All Written By C.J. “The Siege” © 2010/2011, all rights reserved.

Achilles Appreciation Thread HERE
Facebook C.J. HERE,
and yes: PLEASE feel free to call/text 857-544-1943 24hrs

Comments are closed.