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Reviews of coaching sessions:

“ Great time, I think going out like that in a group on a regular basis is the only way to improve “cold approaches”. CJ has been very helpful in providing feedback and giving “missions” for the night. ”

— Andrey

“ I spent a year trying websites and a very expensive matchmaking service, with very poor results. These services promise to take the anxiety and effort out of finding women, but I got extremely few responses from the websites and extremely few matches from the matchmaking service. And in those very few cases where I actually met the girl, she didn’t like me and I didn’t like her. This was true even for the very expensive matchmaking service. The websites and matchmaking service might work for some people, but in my case, I think there is no quick and simple way to eliminate the anxiety and work involved with finding women. I should have joined this meet up group a year ago instead of spending all that effort and money on websites and the matchmaking service. ”

— Su-Ming Wu

“ I’ve been to one daygame meetup so far and really enjoyed it and benefited from it. The atmosphere was fun, supportive, and welcoming. CJ was very involved, gave a lot of personal attention and help, and was very encouraging and positive. His advice made sense, seemed helpful, and was done in a simple and manageable way. In general CJ seemed to be a cool guy who really wants to help other men succeed in this area of life. I also enjoyed the camaraderie with Justin. It’s about a three plus hour round trip for me to Boston but I’ll definitely be going again because it’s worth it! :)

— Kyle

“ I think this meetup group is fantastic, CJ is very experienced and helpful, I am looking forward to the upcoming meetings. ”

— Justin

“ CJ really knows what he is talking about. He helped me overcome approach anxiety and thought me how to hang in there even when things seemed lost. ”

— Michael

“ Despite having been to only one session, I really enjoyed the meet up with CJ (the organizer). He definitely has a lot to offer, so I can’t wait till the next sessions! ”

— Fawkes

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“My daygame experience with CJ the Siege” Post from guy helped in field

“”My daygame experience with CJ the Siege

Just this past Saturday I went out for daygame coaching with Siege. I have worked with CJ in the past and knew he has a great deal of value to offer, so when I found out he was doing FREE coaching I jumped at the opportunity.

When I arrived at Copley (got there late due to traffic from the Sox game) CJ was demonstrating for some newbies how to approach on the street using a simple opener. (If you want to know the opener, you will just have to ask CJ in person or PM him). The first time I tried it, on a two-set of black chicks, the target seemed warm but her friend pulled her away so I erroneously concluded the opener was bad.

Here is where the coaching came in handy. CJ pointed out that I used the opener just fine but that I paused for too long after the target reacted. He emphasized that you have to be ready to follow-up! So I lost the set not because there was inherently anything wrong with me, but simply because I didn’t keep the conversation flowing. This was simple, usable feedback that I was able to implement right way.

So within 1-2 more approaches of making the adjustment, I immediately got into an engaging 5-10 minute conversation with this cute lawyer chick as we walked up Boylston St. We then parted ways and I returned to Copley.

Another memorable set was a two-set right outside of a restaurant on Newbury St. CJ was observing me from just a few feet away and critiqued the entire set from beginning to end. At one point he even came into the set, showing me how to make natural conversation. Like so many men, I’ve struggled in this area and heavily rely on canned material and routines. CJ emphasized that I should listen more to what the girls are saying and even use that for material to talk about. For example, the girls had an accent so Siege asked them where they were from and worked conversation on that topic for a bit before transitioning to another topic.

I recall a street approach where I watched as CJ got a number-close from this pretty blond. It always helps to observe guys that know what they are doing in-field and then try to emulate them. It gives you a chance to see body language and how women react.

These are just a few examples of the sets that were opened. What I am learning is that simple adjustments in your game can make all the difference.

Now here is something interesting. Later on that evening, after me and Siege parted ways, I was on fire when it came to opening. Maybe it was because I was warmed up from doing the day-game but I must have opened in the neighborhood of 20-30 sets. I’ve been in this stuff for 2 years and have never opened that many sets in a single day! My wing even called me on Sunday to congratulate me, saying I was an approach machine.

Other things I learned-

FOR GODSAKE- JUST OPEN!! If you don’t open, ain’t shit going to happen. (We all hear this, but not everyone takes it to heart)
IF HER FRIENDS COME INTO THE SET, QUICKLY INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THEM.

Bottom line: CJ’s coaching = results. I look forward to working and learning from this guy in the future. “”

Achilles

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Women

[private]Women.

I love the way the look, I love the way they smell. I love those times when two dimples happen above a girls waist.

Some girls have the sweetest voices, others have the sexiest voices. I like how they’re humble and graceful and usually polite.

AND I totally DO LOVE hearing about how they look at the world, been that way since I was 5.[/private]

“You’re crazy man, stop bending the reality around you. :) “

“You’re crazy man, stop bending the reality around you. :)
~Jalil
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ANNOUNCEMENT: DSmoothMike has been signed on as Assitant Dating Coach for the Boston area!!!

Every time you step out of your comfort zone, it gets a little bit bigger, so keep doing THAT!” ~C.J. “Silly Rabbit” Siege

NOW Read THIS:Send all your props, congrats to him on his facebook page & also check out the secret diaries of Mr. Smooth at : DAMN SMOOTH

dsmoothmike@adventuresofattraction.com

Better than smooth, smoother than butter.

Transcript about girl 2 days ago from student

GreyWolf has sent you the following message:
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me: whats a good way to reengage that chick from the party that left
I feel like if i dont make contact its gonna go cold

cj: how many days ago was the party

me: sat night, so 2

cj:thats fine, problems come from being too quick seeming needy rather than waiting too long. you are a busy guy and maybe can squeeze her in.

me: Hey some friends of mine are having a small party at their house tonight
do you think it would be good to invite that girlthat walked out on me last weekend
or is it too soon still
and if its not then how should i go about doing it

cj:just let her know it is going on and she is welcome to come
talk about the fun it will be the time and the approximate location… so you have more to tell her if she shows interest

me: funny thing happened last night
I was at dinner at my proffesor’s house (he is an orthodox jew) and he had friends over
one of his friends came with his niecewo isn’t religious and is a senior in college
me her her uncle and his wife walked to her car at the end of the night and she gave me a ride home
I got her number and invited her to aparty
The funny thing is that while we were walking her uncle asked me to date her since she has a nonjewish boyfriend
she is actually really cute so im down to try
but since she isnt religious i think it might do me more harm to have her uncle play me up to her

cj: prolly girls are more likely to date ppl their parent dont like when the girl is trying to break out of the familymold

me: will it do me well to display to her thatim also not religious

cj: yes and if your parents are religoius it shows you have similar struggles

me: my parents are secular like me
how should i structure the conversation when i call her to get her to come

cj: easiest is to just tell her of an awesome party she can come to

me: so at the party i danced a little bit with this girl i danced with before
she offered me her number and i took it
she didnt want to kiss but i think it might have been cause her friends were there
i know she has a boyfirend but i dont think she is very loyal so that shouldnt be a problem
what and when should i text her
should i invite her to hang out or wait for a party

cj: first before i ask yo uquestions what does your gut tell you, hang out or party

me: she is abit of aparty girl and probablly gave me her number so i’d invite her to parties so i think party but i could be wrong

cj: thats your logic adding things up is that what you felt when she gave it to you

me: she might have given it so i’d call to hang out later but im not sure
what would you do

cj: ok so you can just toss things out there if it was her idea to get # you never know you can toss things like im going to grab a bite wanna join
or im watching xyz movie swingby if you want etc
to see if she captures at the offers
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Synthesization about what he’s learned about boastful comments with girls

Conversation Article 1: Demonstrating Higher Value (DHV)

 

You cannot brag about yourself. Bragging is demonstrating lower value (DLV), it shows that you are overly cocky, and it just makes it look like you’re trying way to hard to pick them up. However, there is a way of demonstrating higher value (DHV) without bragging about yourself.

 

One way to DVH your self is by[private] story telling. True stories about your self can create a picture of what it is like to be in your life. When you tell stories about your self, this is demonstrating who and what you are as a person.

 

Here is some other ways to DHV yourself:

 

-Being the protector of loved ones

-Being the leader among men

-Being preselected by women

-Being willing to talk about emotions

-Being non needy or outcome dependent

-Not being emotionally affected

-Being socially aware or intelligence

-Doing things that “suitors” wouldn’t do

-Having a strong frame of mind

-Knowing interesting things

-Stimulating a woman’s emotions

-Being socially in demand

-Being able to emotionally correct

-Having a sense of humor

-Well groomed

 

Now there is one thing that men make a mistake of: Not talking about your ex girlfriend. It’s one thing to talk NICE things about your ex, and another thing to BAD talk about your ex. Talking nice things about your ex shows that you are not being emotionally affected by the break up and that women are preselecting you. You can also talk about your chick friends as well to build on the comfort ability and that women are preselecting you.

 

Having access to resources is another way to DHV your self. Among your family and friends, you got resources to all kinds. So it’s a good idea to know what your friends and family do for a living, because who knows?…they might be useful. 

~DSM

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Student review

Review:

“CJ is a great coach and is very committed to improving your dating skills, all the way from the very first approach to setting up a future date. He really has a lot of knowledge and experience in this area, and he is a very genuine and fun person to hang out with, making your session an awesome experience.” ~AE

“Seige, for the record – brilliant stuff” -Client

Seeker Wrote:

Seige, for the record – brilliant stuff. Thanks for sharing. As someone climbing (and perhaps at time struggling) up the first foothills it is neat to see how someone climbs the whole mountain.

I also have a new respect for everything that goes into the whole process, after having banged away at things for a while. After you showed me you can open any group I would have talked to those girls. But I have been horrible about escalation and counted tons of subsequent places in your tale where I would have let things die.

[Your] post showed me just how much you have to lead and persist to close the deal. So again, kudos and thanks for another lesson .

Peace out,
Seeker

Always my pleasure Seeker. My biggest love in helping the guys that come to me directly, is seeing and hearing the marvelous results in their own game. That is what gets the high-5s going off in my head and why I continue to do what I do.

Why ‘Three plus hour round trip’ to the weekly events I post is worth it

•“ I’ve been to one daygame meetup so far and really enjoyed it and benefited from it. The atmosphere was fun, supportive, and welcoming. CJ was very involved, gave a lot of personal attention and help, and was very encouraging and positive. His advice made sense, helpful, and was done in a simple and manageable way. In general CJ seemed to be a cool guy who really wants to help other men succeed in this area of life. I also enjoyed the camaraderie with Justin. It’s about a three plus hour round trip for me to Boston but I’ll definitely be going again because it’s worth it! :)

— Kyle on Oct 13, 2011.

“…talk on escalation we one of the most influential things on my game I learned during then whole summit.” just came to my phone

Just came to my phone SMS text:

“”Siege, realistically what would it take for you to come out here and do a seminar? Your style is something I know works out in the “bible belt” and that five minute talk on escalation we one of the most influential things on my game I learned during then whole summit. Currently using it!!! So yes I would love to have you out here.”"

Student review

C.J “the Siege” at first sight may seem like a typical dude who knows his fashion, but don’t be fooled! This dating guru has helped numerous friends of mine reach the next level of their dating lives; and I needed to get in on the action.

Before meeting C.J my skills with the opposite sex were slipping. I would go out day and night with one goal in mind:

Meet as many women as possible! Weeks would turn into months with slight improvements.. i.e the length of my interactions and the amount of phone numbers I would get in a given week. But the phone numbers were still mostly flakes! Bottom line is I had NO direction, I had a minimal understanding of things I was doing right and wrong in my interactions; kind of like a marathon runner without a track… I ran FAST but I didn’t get very far.

C.J’s unique coaching style helped by winging me in sets (modeling smooth interactions right before my eyes), scrupulous feedback (debriefs at the end of a session) and homework assignments (internalizing everything). In the last month of working with C.J some of the new skills I have learned are: dance floor game, playfulness, consistent SNL’s and instadates, building deep rapport with strangers, building the right habits, and most importantly Getting HER to game me!! Since working with this guy I am now getting laid weekly, understand social dynamics on a whole new level and most importantly have fun in the process of going out every day/night!!

Getting her to be wanting sex from you

RE: Siege’s adventures, games & puzzles
The next step in my (“Getting Her Chasing You”) method, is putting it on her. I learned most all of my stuff from growing up with girls & having lots of girls in my life. That is what taught me how to flip the coin in the chase.

The techniques that get them chasing at first ‘hello’ all the way to having them beg for sex and every step along the process. Since girls have been chased their whole life it is like a breath of fresh air for them. They are getting rewarded for what they do, not just the fact that they are a girl and are hott. Their reward in my methods is for the actions they take in chasing the man.

DSmoothMike Wrote:
I had a cigg in my hand and I noticed this girl taking out a smoke. I wanted to try something out…

I walked up to her very casually. I dropped into a lean on the wall, and said to her very slowly and seductively, “I know it sounds a bit…random….hmm….do you want to butt fuck?”

(In smoking terms it means that you get someones lit cigarette and light yours with theirs.)

She laughs and said, “Hell yeah, I want to butt fuck!” takes my cigarette and lights hers. Then she gives my smoke to her friend so she can light hers. “Now look,” she says, “now you’re butt fucking two women.” I slid my hand down her lower back and ass cheeks “Oh really?” I responded. I took a puff and said, “Was it good for you?” and they began laughing. The girl then said, “This guy just walked up to me and gave me these fliers and I have nowhere to put them!” I took a puff, flicked the smoke away and said, “I know EXACTLY where to put them…” I stepped in front of her, stared deep into her eyes, took one flyer, gently placed it inside her bra while caressing the breast. Took the other flyer and did it with the other boob. She was totally going for it when her friend decided to take her back into the other club.

That is phucking awesome,
You have synthesized what I teach in incredible ways! From before I showed you that girls love talking sex, especially under the radar which is a huge part that I learned from seeing girls in my life since childhood communicating with each other in subtextual ways. Interweaving sexual topics where two meanings can easily fit brings out available magical moments to capture.

The next step in my (“Getting Her Chasing You”) method, is putting it on her. I learned most all of my stuff from growing up with girls & having lots of girls in my life. That is what taught me how to flip the coin in the chase.

The techniques that get them chasing at first ‘hello’ all the way to having them beg for sex and every step along the process. Since girls have been chased their whole life it is like a breath of fresh air for them. They are getting rewarded for what they do, not just the fact that they are a girl and are hott. Their reward in my methods is for the actions they take in chasing the man.

It is the same stuff they do to guys and when talking to other girls, in different ways back to them.

For one example, using a bit of plausable deniability back on the girl. Plausable deniability as referenced to how girls accept going back to a SNL location for other reasons.

They want to have sex with you on the inside, but logically, in dialog they are going to watch that youtube video you were talking about. You can use plausablie deniabilty in your favor as she sees it, then she feels like the pursuer and does what she knows how to to fulfill that role.

The Siege at cafe Wrote:
Ex. As in when HB waitress listening to me teasing her aboout lack of a joyful greeting she says “I know, I suck.”

My next comments are “Whoa missy, slow down! We just met and already you’re suggesting mischief. Let’s get to know each other a little better first!” in a playful smirk…

…which instantly puts her in blushy playful places, easily guided to their most escalatable place.

A girls imagination is a wonderful place to play in. She wont feel the need to hesitate or resist since it is all a joke, just playfull banter.

Or is it?

In a girl’s imagination those place can bring them arousal just as fast (actually faster and deeper) than physical stimulation on its own.

Another reason while talk during sexy time dramatically increases the amounts of pleasure she feels, from before foreplay to foreplay to orgasm.

The next thing to do is to tell her to slow down, accusing her of the one bringing things up.

You maintain that she is doing things to you, and you are resisting her. Then you can slowly be ‘dropping your (playfully pretended) resistance’ as she will increase her persistance in response to that.

If you didn’t have a GF , I would explain more about what can be done to capitalize on the friend, keeping her from pulling your target girl away but that’s another branch of this topic. I’ll write about that in my own Personal Progress Thread (PPT) if you remind me too.

What you did in the first example I quoted was great, escalating things already in a way better than above average guys. Yet let me take the example and put myself in that place to think of what could be tried to see how far it can go. I’ll imagine I am where you were at:

C.J. “The Siege Wrote:
With a cigg in my hand, I noticed a girl taking a smoke out of the pack.

As I walk up to her very casually, I dropped into a lean on the wall, and said to her very slowly and seductively, “I know it sounds a bit…random….hmm….do you want to butt fuck?” with a playful smirk

(In smoking terms it means that you get someones lit cigarette and light yours with theirs.)

She laughs and says, “Hell yeah, I want to butt fuck!”

She then takes my cigarette and lights hers. Then she gives my smoke to her friend so she can light hers.

“Now look,” she says, “now you’re butt fucking two women.”

With locked eyes & a playful smirk, I slide my hand down her lower back and ass cheeks missy saying: “Whoa missy, slow down…” in a lower, deeper voice “You might be getting me turned on enough to try things I never dreamed of…” (smirk indreases) “…before I met you.”

Now you can see in that last part, my actions are doing one thing while my words are saying something completely different. This is a key thing to remember & use, that I will elaborate with a variety of examples in my PPT. I will also break down the sentence itself, so another with the key componants that make it work can be adapted to any situation.

Now there are a few different examples of what comments could come next, depending on how she responds to that & even before she responds since most likely she’ll be taken aback for a good moment or two, soaking in what is happening.

Which having that moment of her soaking it in, gives you the time to slide in the next possible leading directions but I’ll cover that in another post

keep it

up & the magic has nothing to do but grow!!

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dancing note from student:

Via SMS;
“I brought a 36 yr old home from middlesex last tuesday using ur [private] ‘come to me’ dancing technique
~D-O Double-G” [/private]

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About dating several girls and open relationships

Letter from student after discussion of girls in his life. I asked him to re-write the ideas we discussed so he will have his imagination working to structure the ideas to his own life and I can see how well he understands what we talked about.

“I haven’t defined my relationship with Anna,[private] so that’s good. When other girls (Jenny, Amy) see Anna with me or admiring me, they will see me as a high value commodity. They will have the need to not screw things up with me.

You can off-handedly admit you’re dating girls, but don’t mention other girls’ names. It’s possible to have an open relationship with one “main.” Also you can just have several that you see regularly.

After my band plays, I’ll tell all of them that I will give them a call when I’m done packing up. I will give whoever I want to hang with a call and let them know what bar/party I’m going to.

What do I need to do/say to a girl to have an open relationship? Should I wait till she gives me the “talk?”"”

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How I replied:

> I haven’t defined my relationship with Anna, so that’s good.

Well, you have & that’s good. You introduced her as your friend. Girls hear that stuff and note that in their head. I have many time introduced girls that I hook up with as my friend. That keeps them understanding that .there are no guarantees with you and they were lucky to have the intimate time with you and maybe if they continue to be a beneficial part to your life, they may get more.

Sometimes when girls do want more they will drift but as long as they have certain bases covered in their mind (spending enough time, how time spent, etc) covers what they want for themselves, then that is ok too.

If you have already introduced her as your friend, you probably wont have to cover that again. Most girls will take the label they heard and leave it there.

When other
> girls (Jenny, Amy) see Anna with me or admiring me, they will see me as a
> high value commodity.
Yes, a guy who is wanted by other girls is instantly a guy they want more than your average guy. It shows he is a guy valued by other women, that other women want to spend time with him and the reasons the other women made this decision must be a good one if they already made it.

They will have the need to not screw things up with
> me.
They see that if they do, you have your choice of women to pick from so they will be working to be the best choice you have to choose from.
>
> You can off-handedly admit you’re dating girls, but don’t mention other
> girls’ names.
Yes girls don’t mind when guys are dating other girls, as long as they feel like star of the show when she and guy are together. It is fine to offhandedly refer to this fact sparingly. They will hear it and make a note in their head. ..yet I recommend there is never a reason to mention any other girls specifically when with a one girl.

It’s possible to have an open relationship with one “main.”
It is possible that way and it is also possible to have several regulars to your life, although it can get complicated managing time and not mixing up details about each. There are also ways to avoid doing that though.

> Also you can just have several that you see regularly.

> After my band plays, I’ll tell all of them that I will give them a call when
> I’m done packing up. I will give whoever I want to hang with a call and let
> them know what bar/party I’m going to.

> What do I need to do/say to a girl to have an open relationship?

Should I
> wait till she gives me the “talk?”

No, it is easier to have subtle but honest iindications prior to the talk. This way a new girl is accomidating to your needs and wants as the time you guys know each other goes on. Then it isn’t a “”I want this X or I want somebody who can give me this X in a relationship.”"


Let d’Adventure Continue

~C.J. “The Siege” © 2011

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What got me into sharing what I’ve learned:

[private]My undying goal to draw out the best in the people around me.

I haven’t found anything more internally rewarding yet.[/private]