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RE: Clear violation of the rules
(11-01-2011 06:26 PM)Serendipitous Wrote: Achilles will not find the help he needs in this community.
He’s just as guilty of antagonizing and breeding negativity as anyone else.
I move to vote him out of the community based on these reasons.
HE WILL AND HE HAS!!!
PERSONALLY I HAVE WORKED WITH HIM, from a difference in two sessions.
First was at Night GSF, where I too felt he was hopeless, and a man of suckage..
To ask for futher help like he was demanding what he expected due to him
even without any regard to help been given him by me so far.
I wrote a post about this I saw, if I can find where I post it I will put link here [URL]
He has difference to other guys like well do.
Once I learned his differences, I worked with him again, Daytime.
Through 4 sets I saw his dramatic increase in progress so well, I was thankful he asked to be video’d.
From set 1 to set 4 you can see him improving in each one based on feedback to be a completely different level of progress,, signifigantly noticed by him, and viewer and most importantly the girls he was talking to.
They became warm to him much quicker in the 4th set than the first set based on the significant difference in how he was structuring things, with video to remind him what got him those differences.
Sure we are 3.4 billion different men on this planet, each with a snowflake to our imprint.
Serendipitous Wrote:He’s just as guilty of antagonizing and breeding negativity as anyone else.
That is absolutely not true & I will have credible, variable reference to this point I make. Either quoted here or directly on the thread he is in.
Check the both if you would like to fact-check with me.
Serendipitous Wrote:I move to vote him out of the community based on these reasons.
Absolutely NOT! (Yes you may vote whatever you want, I was just stating my wholehearted disagreement with, and I will explain why)
This is a mirror image of the newbie at Night GSF (of months ago) that you moved in to his set to cockblock him and highjack set.
Your first rational to me as I asked about it, was that the girl was eye-fucking you and wanted you..
Does that interpretable claim seem like accurate enough reason to walk over, get in man’s set, and gum it up for him?
When I stated what I observed from an outside perspective, and regardless if what you claimed was true (although you didn’t even hook her as long as he did before you ejected him) you further that by telling me: “Well I just don’t like him”
Not only did you disregard my comments that those moves and motivations were unacceptable, so did some of the 4 other lair guys who were at Lir with us that night state to you.
After several of us were in mini-pow-wows trying to figure out the nature & rational of the moves.
With different members who were present, I was in conversations…and then from one party or the other I heard about other conversations about this same incident. (I have yet to say who, but that reason comes up later in this post. )
I continuously tried to understand what you didn’t like about this newbie since you still gave me no concrete or any reason.
Regardless of what I spent times in discussions with you, other lair guys present when that happened, and my personal reflection…
I did those things out of friendship
The thing is., regardless if I spent the time doing it for you, it STILL DOES NOT make the action right.
or acceptable from a person with a leadership standpoint.
Guys have repeatedly muffle their complaints about you out of fear of losing their membership here.
Can’t wonder too long why since some things are stated as immediate punishment without warning.
A guy under that M.O. has no chance to slip up & make a mistake then learn from it to correct his future actions..
He feels as if he walks on eggshells, and might lose something very valuable by doing something he didn’t know was wrong.er to make an judgement, or a statement of absolute before I am sure, so far the only similarity between that guy at Lir months ago & Achilles is their culture.
This is another example of why I vehemently oppose, a ‘no-mistake policy’ within the Symposium.
Men make mistakes
Men come to this group for self improvement on a variey of levels
Mistakes are some of the best lessons available.
For a policy, when it comes to mistakes
Let’s take breaking a rule that is written in the Symposium rules.
Every guy reads that at a different amount of careful thought through it.
Some terms used go undefined within rules. (see my post on Flaming for excellent example)
So then with a definition, each guy may make his own definition that may not agree with what is meant in rules, or how other guys interpret term (see Achilles post of Plowing) Although he had credible references to his point, guys were opposing his point, arguing what is meant, that didn’t know what the term means
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